The Cape Party

Where’s the article this appears to promise?

probably coming, the party staff is overworked, as they do not have nice fancy millions to work with, like the parties that dont deliver on any promise

I read the other posts through, and they seem pretty logical. these guys have a sound argument, try the other posts, i think this one is pretty self explanatory, could have done without the “read more”

apologies for lack of content; here is more, taken from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi

It refers to non-violent protest that is Just.

Ah yes, Gandhi the guru of peaceful protest, hailed as a mentor by the ANC – pity they were unable to control their violent impulses.

Anyway, it seems not many people know the real Gandhi and the liberals have tried to airbrush a lot of his thoughts away, like this one from the link below…

“Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian location should be chosen for dumping down all kaffirs of the town, passes my comprehension. Of course, under my suggestion, the Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians I must confess I feel most strongly. I think it is very unfair to the Indian population, and it is an undue tax on even the proverbial patience of my countrymen”.
Letter to Dr. Porter, Medical Officer of Health for Johannesburg (15 February 1905); later published in The Indian Opinion

For a TRUE multi cultural society vote Cape Party!

Ja , selfs die grootste humaniste was gatvol, al daai tyd, vir die ‘Kaffirs”. Laat jou dink ne !

Wonder wat die Engel-man
van vandag se RSA sou gese het.

This website
http://www.capeinsight.com

will support cape independence and is looking for writers to express their views through it.

What a
laugh, Boston Legal was a fictional tv programme…! Do you white boys really
think black/ coloured people are stupid enough to vote you in charge of the
cape that you stole in the first place! You guys might own the money for now,
but wake up, this is a black land, for now, forever! And if you were in any way
interested in positive change, you would allow a black/coloured person to lead
your party. For now it smells just like another white person trying to hold on
to all the privileges of that fools paradise well call Apartheid and
Colonisation…

p.s. why
not put a name to that idiot token coloured woman in you poster campaign. I’ve
been scouring your site and she remains nameless – typical…!
 

“this is a black land” – Lair , lair .
The Blacks are not native to the Cape and if you learn your ANC school history, you will know that the blacks stole the northern part of RSA from the Koi/San. Blacks only crossed the Northern Border of the current RSA 750 years ago and drove the Koi-koi south .
You have no claim to the Cape, never had and never will have.
Us whites get along with the Cape coloured people just fine and we will build a nation that will make the rest of Africa look like a rubishdump, (that it already is)
Blacks only sponge on others and we want out.

“Do you white boys really think black/ coloured people are stupid enough to vote you in charge of the cape that you stole in the first place!”  

Stole from whom?   Are you a Khoi-San?   And even if you are there were only ever a few thousand of them wandering around over a vast area – no permanence, no laws, no institutions, no buildings, no nothing.   No different from animals really.  So there was no “country” to “steal” in the first place.

“And if you were in any way interested in positive change, you would allow a black/coloured person to lead your party.”

Blacks are in control of 99% of sub-saharan Africa and wherever you go in black africa you will find filth, poverty, squalor, incompetence, corruption, thieving, and brutality, not exactly a good track record.  

A coloured leader would be fine if one could be found that wasn’t either a white-hating racist opportunist like De Lille or a corrupt clown like Peter Marais and many others I could name.   Leaving aside the issues of competence and integrity it seems to me that the first thing blacks/coloureds do when put in any position of power is to feather their own nest to the tune of many millions and when caught with their greedy hands in the cookie jar by a (white) whistle blower they pull the race card..!      Works a treat every time doesnt  it?     And that is essentially what you are doing here playing the race card, because its your only card isnt it? 

And if we take your racist “logic” to its ultimate conclusion then, irrespective of competence aptitude and intelligence, blacks/coloureds must be in charge of absolutely everything and whites must have no authoritative positions whatsover.   And if we take the same logic a bit further whites must either leave or cease to exist (genocide) or become a slave class.   Thats what you really want isnt it?   
 
It must be difficult for you, but please tell us the truth and then go back to your cushy affirmative-action job for which you hold no qualification aside from your skin colour.
Doesnt the knowledge that a white should be doing your job eat away at you all the time?   Isnt that why you hate us?  Because you do hate us dont you?

@Spensbona:disqus :> Quote “And if we take your racist “logic” to its ultimate conclusion then,
irrespective of competence aptitude and intelligence, blacks/coloureds
must be in charge of absolutely everything and whites must have no
authoritative positions whatsover.”
Its exactly that ‘Intelligence and Aptitude” of blacks in particular that is causing all the problems in Africa.
So the solution is the exact opposite of what your said. But then again, in African culture, everything works the wrong way round.
That is exactly why I have given up on a multicultural democratic South Africa. Let it go toe the dogs and let the whites and cape coloureds get independent from the idiocracy and save ourselves. We have a better change to build a mutual future for our children without the black African sponging idiots from the north.
Cheers !
 

An extract from : ‘Wars, gun and votes: Democracy in
dangerous places.”

A book written by Paul Collier, Professor in
economics at Oxford University

(2009). Leader of the Dept. for African Economic
Studies.

He wrote the following in regards to political leaders:

In modern well developed Democracies, politicians are
disciplined by facing the voters.

If an incumbent politician had not even tried to
deliver what people want, electors would notice. (Mainly
through the free media)

Politicians want to stay in power. Partly because
they feel a vocation to do good, we hope, but it is also a choice of lifestyle:
it is their profession and they don’t
want to be unemployed.

So, between media scrutiny and the politician’s
appetite for power, political leaders are pinioned to trying hard for the
common good.

In under developed new Democracies this is often not
the case.

Voters often have precious little knowledge about the
choices they face. Even past performance of the leaders, which voters just
lived through, will typically be open to multiple interpretations. (good media is important)

There is also the problem that some voters are voting
for or against the political leaders, regardless of performance, because of
ethnic identity.

Their societies are usually divided into competing
ethnic/identity groups.

As a result, ethnicity is by far the easiest basis on
which to organize political loyalty.

The problem with that is that loyalty is not issues-based and thus not performance-based either.

Votes are simply frozen in identity blocks of rival
identities.

A consequence of these frozen voter blocks are that
the votes that an incumbent politician attract, are not sensitive to performance of the politician: votes do not hinge
on whether he has done a good job or bad job.

So, besides lack of info for voters, relative few
electors are going to base their votes on performance judgment.

Perhaps also the scope for the government to produce
a good performance is really not good at all, maybe due to its own limitations.

Especially after years of poor performance, a
government (and people) may even lose faith in
its ability to make a decisive difference.

Finally, suppose that if the government does choose
to be good, it has to forgo behavior that is decidedly lucrative. When messing
about with the economy to the detriment of citizens, but opening up many little
niches and crannies for personal enrichment and for rewarding loyalty among
followers.

 As quality of
voter information (free media) is made weaker,
as identity politics freezes more and more votes, as government’s confidence in
its own ability to shape the events diminishes, and as the cost of forgoing bad
governance are increased, a point is reached at which facing an election does
not discipline  incumbent politicians into
trying to perform well.

And if politicians can still face a reasonable chance
of winning elections without bothering to deliver good performance, the sort of people who seek to become
politicians will change.

If being honest and competent does not give you an
electoral advantage, then the Honest and Competent will be discouraged.

Crooks will replace the honest candidates.

One depressing indicator of such a process is that
democratic politics in these societies attract candidates with criminal
records.

Electors just don’t have enough info to sort out
accusations from reality: either  the
press is too muzzled (state controlled) or too
free (open to abuse).

There is so much mud slinging without recourse to
verification that voters discount what ever they are told or electors are
frozen in identity blocks and support their own politicians, even if they are
criminals. (Or idiots)

Doesn’t
this sound familiar,

Im white afrikaner male. I have my own engineering  business. I have an engineering degree and I know that my type is the backbone of this country. I dont hate blacks but think that the vast majority is too stupid to think for themselves and they are manipulated by a small group of black elites who only care about their back pockets and will stop a nothing, to stay in power, even if it means turning this country into a rubbish dump. Elections is just a Race census. The ANC will rule till Jesus come.
AA and BEE is just legalized corruption for the Black elite to make more money and makes no contribution to uplift poor black people. White people’s only use as seen by the black elite is as Tax cows to fill the state coffers so they can empty it into their own pockets.
And I am fed-up with this lot. We should cut our losses in South Africa and start all over again in the Independent Cape. The Blacks can have the northern part of southern Africa with all its natural resources (80% of RSA’s recoures) and just leave us alone in the south to do our own thing.

If you all could talk the positive and leave out the negative attacks on other races/groups, politicians I could almost go along with because I am more of a Federalist than a centralist lie we have. It seems that with out all negative ‘preaching’ the Independent Cape idea could slot in well with a Federal state. 

 Jesse I agree with you. Just keep in mind that the comments here do not represent the Cape Party and they are merely readers and visitors to the page.

The Cape Party have made it clear that they are not racist and that we could all live in the true rainbow nation that Mandela preached about. The Cape has a way more balanced racial status for that. There will be no majority group. We can therefore have a true democracy.

Pieter – I am assuming you are an official CP member?
You must know that the idea of a “Rainbow Nation” is not just a ridiculous farce but a deplorable scam designed to trick overly guilt-wracked whites into subjugation and a perverse form of intellectual slavery (at best) under IQ67  IQ blacks  and, yes – it needs to be said – most coloureds..!!   

There is no future for whites under black rule – I think we can all agree on this – but having seen the performance of various coloured politicians – the name Patricia De Lille somehow springs to mind – what hope with them?

Thanks Pieter. I understand but it is a bit irksome when people come aboard and do not act in the spirit of the party. I am tired of the constant racist comments between the DA and  the ANC and would love to be part of something that concentrated on the things that really matter like building a society that works. I thought that COPE might offer something but they are hopelessly involved on power struggles within the party. The Cape Party may have a good future if you can overcome the suspicions that it is an escape from black domination but a genuine attempt to have a ‘homeland’ for everyone that really works.

Cape Party, having millions of rands or not, the lack of a moderator on your official site should be reconsidered. References such as ‘kaffirs’ belong to an old regime which we thought we have gotten rid off. But then again your manifesto calls for Freedom of Speech.

Let me embrace the FOS and say, “Spesbona, kak by die huis, en nie waar ek jou ruike kan kry nie!”

CP, you guys sound very intelligent and eager to bring about change, but you fail to convince me that you understand that the real problem is capitilism and not the ANC. I voted for the ANC in 1994 as that was the ‘right’ thing to do. The ANC failed me. I realize that although I’m a PDI, I’m not black enough. Last time my vote went to Cope, what a mistake.

Will i be making a mistake voting for you? 

Bet you 500 western cape dollars we’ll be free from Northern wankers by 2020 

 Spesbona, I agree with you. I live in Pretoria , Capitol of RSA and sit right in the middle of all the ANC government officials. I do feel this pressure every day.
I hope that in a independent  federal cape, there will be one state that the Afrikaner can call home as we have been fighting for our freedom for more than 200 years. I also hope for the Cape coloureds or descendents of the Koi and San to also have the same privilege.
The Cape Federation should consist of 6-8 states where some states will be controled by a specific poplation group and some states will be straight democratic with majority rule. this will allow culutral groups to be protected but free co-operation between all groups. This does not mean that people must move to areas allocated to their cultural group, No. It means that certain government positions will be determined  by the group of the allocated area even if that person does not stay in that area.
In this manner, cultural groups can be protected and this will also lead to more contentment of each group and less friction overall. So we can all partake in Federal co-operation from a secure base.

 Intolerant , no opposing comments allowed. Wast of time.

@Spesbona  – Are you in the military?   You seem to speak in such a high manner – one would think you have a brain.  I am white.  I am married to a coloured. I live in Cape Town which is the capital of The Cape Federation.  If you don’t believe in a strong economy and that we could actually employ your brain to live in peace and harmony … maybe you should think what you would feel like if your child came home after being raped at school – or you can simply move to South Africa.  Wakker skrik seun!!